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and the things they told me were things like why did george w. bush look at his watch? where did he have to go? why was he anxious to get out of there? and people tell me now that they want to see how they do. they don't want to hear, i think they have heard a lot about the economy, and they're not interested in the nimine nush that. so it's really about style skbrchlt i don't think you're going to upset a lot of people except maybe candidates because a lot of people come away, honestly, carol, from these debates and talk about what we will talk about years after the fact. it is the one liners, it is looking at your watch and where did he have to go. >>>? that kind of thing is very dipity because it's a performance buy these guys. truly. >> it is. it is and that's why i call it a performance art. i hope they are preparing, you know, like, al gore should not have been sighing as he did, in his debate with george w. bush. they have to concerned every gesture they make. every little smile that might be inappropriate. so that's what i'm going to be looking for, i teach stud
and the things they told me were things like why did george w. bush look at his watch? where did he have to go? why was he anxious to get out of there? and people tell me now that they want to see how they do. they don't want to hear, i think they have heard a lot about the economy, and they're not interested in the nimine nush that. so it's really about style skbrchlt i don't think you're going to upset a lot of people except maybe candidates because a lot of people come away, honestly, carol,...
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bush to barack obama." the co-author of the end game michael gordon joins me now. congratulations. this is an epic piece of work. u.n. and general trainer have been digging through it from both sides on the ground in iraq and here in washington and elsewhere. but, let's talk about what you think is the real reason for this rise in both sectarian attacks and attacks against security forces. is this iranian influence? >> i think it's more complicated than that. i think that, you know, the worst has not happened in iraq. we don't have a civil war. the country hasn't collapsed for the doom sayers who thought the place was going to go up in flames, that hasn't occurred. >> john mccain and others even today on "morning joe" was saying it's all blowing apart. >> well it's not all blowing apart. but what we -- but there are a lot of reasons for concern. without an american military footprint on the ground, even a small one of a few thousand troops, the iraqi commandos would become less capable of fighting al qaeda
bush to barack obama." the co-author of the end game michael gordon joins me now. congratulations. this is an epic piece of work. u.n. and general trainer have been digging through it from both sides on the ground in iraq and here in washington and elsewhere. but, let's talk about what you think is the real reason for this rise in both sectarian attacks and attacks against security forces. is this iranian influence? >> i think it's more complicated than that. i think that, you know,...
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. >> george w. bush. >> from the right or george w. bush, or if mitt romney made a speech and held up that kind of a bomb and drew the line. it boggles the mind. these are serious issues. they are complex. the country and the world deserves to know exactly where we are in the process and where we're going to get to. >> i know that particularly netanyahu always savvy about the american media. this was clearly designed so that more of us would cover this. it was an and t-- antic. >> i think probably benjamin netanyahu's standing with important leaders is pretty well fixed, i don't think it moves it one way or another. he is a hard liner. he doesn't like this administration plainly. they have some real differences. he is quite close to mitt romney. he knew him before -- >> how about the fact, i was going to say, how about the fact today he will speak by phone to both. a world leader doing that -- >> that's a danger for him, i have known him a long time. he is always moving forward. the danger is that he can involve himself too demonstrabl
. >> george w. bush. >> from the right or george w. bush, or if mitt romney made a speech and held up that kind of a bomb and drew the line. it boggles the mind. these are serious issues. they are complex. the country and the world deserves to know exactly where we are in the process and where we're going to get to. >> i know that particularly netanyahu always savvy about the american media. this was clearly designed so that more of us would cover this. it was an and t--...
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there's george bush eating corn with the folks. john kerry out hunting looking a little crazy but he's trying to get that working class vote. >> as i said, nascar, don't underestimate. it's 40% women and 20% minorities. >> s.e., to your point about conservation. i ran in a rural district in virginia, and the land and water very much a part of the culture there. it's a conservative district. we found exactly what you're talking about. a sort of progressive message on environmentalism was very -- it was very well received in the district and even the republican member of congress who is down the line conservative on every other issue has had to temper and be a little more mode rate on environmental issues. >> they're misunderstood voters. there are opportunities on both sides to get them. >> we cleared it up a little bit here. up next from hunters and nascar fans from bureaucrats in business suits. both are there making their pitch, but who will hit the sweet spot? the chair joins us live from richmond straight ahead. with the spark
there's george bush eating corn with the folks. john kerry out hunting looking a little crazy but he's trying to get that working class vote. >> as i said, nascar, don't underestimate. it's 40% women and 20% minorities. >> s.e., to your point about conservation. i ran in a rural district in virginia, and the land and water very much a part of the culture there. it's a conservative district. we found exactly what you're talking about. a sort of progressive message on environmentalism...
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in 2004 george w. bush went up against al gore. in gore's case, a strategist thought he lost that debate in the spin room. so i wonder, matt, how much of this is decided by what the candidates actually say? and how much by the pundits the day after? >> i give the american people some credit. i think they can listen and watch. and most evidence has shown that people start paying attention maybe around the conventions. they pay a lot of attention in the debates as well. what romney has to do is to get people who don't think obama has earned a second mandate, he's got to get them to think he deserved to replace him. there is room to make that case. i don't think he's made that case so far, but we're talking about tinkering around the margins. i think both sides are going to -- democrats are going to vote democrat, republicans will vote republican. >> and john mccain who knows more than a little bit about what it's like to be in a presidential debate had this take on "morning joe" today. >> i think for us to raise the expectation, he's
in 2004 george w. bush went up against al gore. in gore's case, a strategist thought he lost that debate in the spin room. so i wonder, matt, how much of this is decided by what the candidates actually say? and how much by the pundits the day after? >> i give the american people some credit. i think they can listen and watch. and most evidence has shown that people start paying attention maybe around the conventions. they pay a lot of attention in the debates as well. what romney has to...
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george h.w. bush looking at his watch. appearances count, don't they? >> they really do. and a professional knows that. george h.w. bush in that debate, that third one in richmond in 1992, he was looking at his watch because he was trying to make the point that one of the other candidates had run over time. it didn't really compute this was sending the message that he was impatient, just the kind of message he didn't want to send. >> humor can be an effective tool, diffuse a weakness. >> i will not make age an issue of this campaign. i am not going to exploit for political purposes my opponent's youth and inexperience. >> and at that moment, a lot of people said well, there's the ball game. including his opponent. >> including walter mondale. >> what do you think about humor as a tool in this debate tonight? >> you'd better be a very accomplished actor like reagan or else it probably won't work. in that case, reagan said certain things that might have given rise to further worry he was too old to serve a second term. got things wrong. ran over in his final concluding rema
george h.w. bush looking at his watch. appearances count, don't they? >> they really do. and a professional knows that. george h.w. bush in that debate, that third one in richmond in 1992, he was looking at his watch because he was trying to make the point that one of the other candidates had run over time. it didn't really compute this was sending the message that he was impatient, just the kind of message he didn't want to send. >> humor can be an effective tool, diffuse a...
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he hasn't differentiated from george bush's. and his plans lack specifics. in a one-on-one debate, candidates have a lot of control over how aggressive they are. both romney and the president are inexperienced in a one-on-one debate format. few details on the format. the president and romney will be at podiums, standing, not sitting, and there will be no basic time limits on their answers. it's not 90 seconds, buzzer, things like that. it's up to the discretion of the moderator, jim leierer. that's going to be up to him. but there's supposed to be a lot of leeway here over how long the conversations go. the debate is on domestic policy. 90 minutes is supposed to be devoted to the economy specifically with governing and health care. but we'll see if the general nature of those areas allows libya to come up, which we know the romney folks want to do. debates are as much about style as substance and this is a reality show where obama and romney will meet in the first time in nearly five years before their biggest audience of the campaign. the first 2008 preside
he hasn't differentiated from george bush's. and his plans lack specifics. in a one-on-one debate, candidates have a lot of control over how aggressive they are. both romney and the president are inexperienced in a one-on-one debate format. few details on the format. the president and romney will be at podiums, standing, not sitting, and there will be no basic time limits on their answers. it's not 90 seconds, buzzer, things like that. it's up to the discretion of the moderator, jim leierer....
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george w. bush, ronald reagan in '84, george h.w. bush in '92, the president didn't seem to be on his game. mitt romney made a surprise appearance to a cpac event in denver still courting the conservatives but say if you know people that voted for president obama, tell them to come on over to our side. that's ironic because i don't imagine he knows many conservative republicans who voted for president obama the last time or plan to this time. nevertheless, you're no fan of governor romney. did you become a fan last night as a conservative who has doubted his credibility from the minute he entered this race? >> well, i think my credentials as a non-romney show are pretty well secured. i have good street cred for your audience. frankly, i thought mitt romney did the best job of advancing even a modicom of viewpoints and stepping up on a national stage than like when al gore invented the internet. mitt romney, unlike john mccain, mitt romney wants to win the presidency, and a lot of conservatives have asked themselves that question the
george w. bush, ronald reagan in '84, george h.w. bush in '92, the president didn't seem to be on his game. mitt romney made a surprise appearance to a cpac event in denver still courting the conservatives but say if you know people that voted for president obama, tell them to come on over to our side. that's ironic because i don't imagine he knows many conservative republicans who voted for president obama the last time or plan to this time. nevertheless, you're no fan of governor romney. did...
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pennsylvania hasn't voted republican since george h.w. bush. polls show him trailing president obama by as much as 11 points. the latest poll puts the score at 54 to 43. is pennsylvania in play? let's bring in former pennsylvania governor ed rendell who knows pennsylvania like no other. welcome. >> hi, alex. >> we want to talk about the fund-raiser. it's been on the governor's schedule for a while. he's not been in your state campaigning since mid-summer, so why now? >> i don't think they intended to have this rally, but i think the pennsylvania state republican party pressured them into having a rally. they're not playing in pennsylvania right now, and unless the polls improve significantly, i don't think they'll play much at this point. president obama's been very, very popular in the southeast, in the philadelphia suburbs and the city itself. it's a real tough hurdle to overcome. but interestingly, ohio, pennsylvania, florida, none of them according to the time's poll looked promising and no candidate can win without winning at least one of
pennsylvania hasn't voted republican since george h.w. bush. polls show him trailing president obama by as much as 11 points. the latest poll puts the score at 54 to 43. is pennsylvania in play? let's bring in former pennsylvania governor ed rendell who knows pennsylvania like no other. welcome. >> hi, alex. >> we want to talk about the fund-raiser. it's been on the governor's schedule for a while. he's not been in your state campaigning since mid-summer, so why now? >> i...
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i remember when george bush ii ran. kerry was excellent, but there was a core in bush, despite the fact he was losing the debates, that sort of connected with people. so even though we felt, i was there the first kerry/bush debate, we felt that he was slaughtered by kerry. but you didn't leave there disliking him. the problem with romney is, his likability. and if he walks out tonight, not only losing, but still not likable, it's over with. >> i just want to talk about what steve said. i think we know who president obama is. and i think there were some real impactful moments in the last time president obama was in this position. in one of the debates, foreign policy was huge. and there was a big narrative out there that president obama, you know, he couldn't take the 3:00 a.m. phone call, wasn't prepared, didn't have executive experience, wasn't ready to do foreign policy. president obama stood up in that debate, and i think it's one for the highlight reel. he said, if we have intelligence that osama bin laden is, you k
i remember when george bush ii ran. kerry was excellent, but there was a core in bush, despite the fact he was losing the debates, that sort of connected with people. so even though we felt, i was there the first kerry/bush debate, we felt that he was slaughtered by kerry. but you didn't leave there disliking him. the problem with romney is, his likability. and if he walks out tonight, not only losing, but still not likable, it's over with. >> i just want to talk about what steve said. i...
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i remember president bush, george w. bush, was quoted -- used to be quoted as saying, you know, people will be out in the oval office waiting room and they'll say i'm going to go in and tell the president, great texas phrase, what all, and they get in and they say oh, what a lovely tie, mr. president. and i think that's a big part of this. and i think that that's one of the reasons what happened in '04. i think it's probably what happened last night. and one thing we do know, we know that governor romney is a hugely competitive guy. but arguably the only person around more competitive is barack obama. and so there's, you know, this is 30 days out. i would think this would be a much bigger deal in terms of the tactical horse race if this were like 1980. if this debate had been on october 28th, i think this would be a much more -- have much more possibility of being truly transformative. i think it's hugely important, but, again, mark twain is dead. >> all right. thank you for that. let's go to "the wall street journal." "
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if he can't think straight and he can't speak properly, is mitt romney george bush in disguise? >> i'll tell what you. i want to give you the baseline, i don't have time to give you the numbers. look, obviously this is a campaign that has gone awry. his great he is help mete, his wife, has revealed his greatest fault line. his own wife casting suspicion on the -- >> to be fair you have extrapolated somewhat. do you really think that that comment by his wife indicated a genuine anxiety she has for his mental well-being? >> well perhaps, an unspoken one. i don't think that obviously when she said mental well-being, i think she's talking about the emotional. the toughness it takes to stand in office. i'm not suggesting he somehow has borderline personality. i'm suggesting that the border states however are coming into view here and that the swing states certainly are up for grabs because mitt romney has squandered a serious purchase on his right wing constituency, gotten through paul ryan, and now i think his wife is saying the kind of mental toughness that obama has displayed may
if he can't think straight and he can't speak properly, is mitt romney george bush in disguise? >> i'll tell what you. i want to give you the baseline, i don't have time to give you the numbers. look, obviously this is a campaign that has gone awry. his great he is help mete, his wife, has revealed his greatest fault line. his own wife casting suspicion on the -- >> to be fair you have extrapolated somewhat. do you really think that that comment by his wife indicated a genuine...
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it was one of the top ten in the country, so they excluded george w. bush. to my regret they excluded george herbert walker bush who i personally thing they deserved more credit than they got. the popular vote excluded woodrow wilson. woodrow wilson charted american history for the next years. >> what do you make of the breakdown if you look at the list that's used democratic. out of ten, only three are republicans. >> yeah. i mean the people, four were republicans, but wi biand large you have to look at who the republicans are. you've about got warren harding who was always drunk and making love in a closet. corrupt. you've got herbert hoover, decent made who made a screw -u on the depression. and calvin coolidge. he gave his wife a present, a bag of socks. 53 socks, darned the holes in them. that was the kind of imagination calvin cool lilk had. then you have george -- and in the poll, i have to say i don't think "newsweek" would mind this coming out, but i was told that among the worst presidents they chose the worst presidents. there were two. republican
it was one of the top ten in the country, so they excluded george w. bush. to my regret they excluded george herbert walker bush who i personally thing they deserved more credit than they got. the popular vote excluded woodrow wilson. woodrow wilson charted american history for the next years. >> what do you make of the breakdown if you look at the list that's used democratic. out of ten, only three are republicans. >> yeah. i mean the people, four were republicans, but wi biand...
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bush. >> thanks to his sheer incompetence, schwarzenegger quickly became a very unpopular governor and managed to salvage his re-election campaign by abandoning the republicans and adopting the democrats. he ended up tripling the state's debt. i, for one, don't blame schwarzenegger for any of that. schwarzenegger has always, very plainly and publicly, been a clown. i blame the political media for not treating him as such. political pundits spend endless hours analyzing and judging the character of our politicians. please, always remember that the very worst public practitioners of judging character are political pundits. they have been presented with two very simple intelligence tests in this regard in the last few years. first schwarzenegger the clown, then trump the clown. and the political media has failed both of those political intelligence tests. it may be that i stand alone tonight as the only american political pundit, the only public judge of political character who has never said a good word about either arnold schwarzenegger or donald trump. not one word. the political media
bush. >> thanks to his sheer incompetence, schwarzenegger quickly became a very unpopular governor and managed to salvage his re-election campaign by abandoning the republicans and adopting the democrats. he ended up tripling the state's debt. i, for one, don't blame schwarzenegger for any of that. schwarzenegger has always, very plainly and publicly, been a clown. i blame the political media for not treating him as such. political pundits spend endless hours analyzing and judging the...
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remember on this day in 2000, al gore was ahead of george w. bush by two points. bush was leading him by about three points going into the last weekend. and went all the way to the supreme court. at this point in 1980, carter was leading reagan by four. there was a gallup with five days left that had him up by six. so i'm not particularizing this to chuck, but the pollsters and the press don't decide who shows up. the people who decide who shows up are the people knocking on doors, ringing door bells, making phone calls. and i think there's going to be a lot of surprises. >> but ed rendell, a lot of republicans like ralph like to go back to the reagan days. the difference is, as i have discussed this week with some pollsters, he was 20 points up after the convention. we had seen his ability to create wide swings. we haven't seen that in this race. it's much more polarized. right? >> no question. and ralph is right to some extent about the polls. but, look, we all know that the challenger gets a big bump in the first debate. no question about it. just appearing on
remember on this day in 2000, al gore was ahead of george w. bush by two points. bush was leading him by about three points going into the last weekend. and went all the way to the supreme court. at this point in 1980, carter was leading reagan by four. there was a gallup with five days left that had him up by six. so i'm not particularizing this to chuck, but the pollsters and the press don't decide who shows up. the people who decide who shows up are the people knocking on doors, ringing door...
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up next, george w. bush turns up in an embarrassing place for mitt romney. wait until you catch this. find out where he's speaking like right before the election day, george w., just to bring the house down. this is "hardball," the place for politics. [ horse neighs ] look! she wears the scarlet markings! [ man ] out! your kind is not welcome here! nor your odd predilections! miracle whip is tangy and sweet, not odd. [ man ] it's evil! if you'd try it, you'd know. she speaketh the truth! [ crowd gasps ] [ woman ] reverend? ♪ can i have some? ♪ so it can feel like you're using nothing at all. but neosporin® eczema essentials™ is different. its multi-action formula restores visibly healthier skin in 3 days. neosporin® eczema essentials™. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 at schwab, we're committed to offering you tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 low-cost investment options-- tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 like our exchange traded funds, or etfs tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 which now have the lowest tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 operating expenses tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 in their respective tdd#: 1-800-34
up next, george w. bush turns up in an embarrassing place for mitt romney. wait until you catch this. find out where he's speaking like right before the election day, george w., just to bring the house down. this is "hardball," the place for politics. [ horse neighs ] look! she wears the scarlet markings! [ man ] out! your kind is not welcome here! nor your odd predilections! miracle whip is tangy and sweet, not odd. [ man ] it's evil! if you'd try it, you'd know. she speaketh the...
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everything went right for george bush in 2000. gore was bad, he had orange make-up. he got in bush's face, that didn't go very well. bush overperformed, no foreign policy experience, he did very well. and the bush team outspun the gore people because they pushed their story line. and you went from, you know, minus five before the debate to plus a couple afterward and went on to win that disputed victory. but yes, romney can do it, he was a smart guy, good in most of the debates for the republicans. on the other hand, obama's pretty smart too and there's not much expectation to think he's going to screw up. >> what about, john, playing to that dull incompetent thing? he said in his convention speech. he said, look, i'm not going to heal the world, not going to part the seas, i want to help you and your family. the message being maybe i'm not as charismatic, i'm not a superstar the way many of you feel about this man, but i'm a businessman and i want to save you from what's happening to this economy. doesn't he play it down the middle that way? >> that's always been th
everything went right for george bush in 2000. gore was bad, he had orange make-up. he got in bush's face, that didn't go very well. bush overperformed, no foreign policy experience, he did very well. and the bush team outspun the gore people because they pushed their story line. and you went from, you know, minus five before the debate to plus a couple afterward and went on to win that disputed victory. but yes, romney can do it, he was a smart guy, good in most of the debates for the...
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bush and he had said that the middle east going up in flames was a, quote, bump in the road, george w. bush would have been absolutely skewered by the press. >> at the same time, is it fair to say that the romney campaign and mitt romney himself have seized upon things too quickly and almost looked a little almost like a dog pulling on someone's leg? >> they've been hand-fisted. >> let me ask you this. >> they made a mistake. in fact, even internally inside the romney campaign, they know now that the libyan press conference, the day after, they will all tell you, was an absolute mistake, and that showed up in the polls. >> here's my question, then. because congressman peter king is calling on susan rice to step down, to resign as u.s. ambassador to the u.n. and yesterday, here's the response as they try and move forward and turn the majpage. congressman paul ryan and paul mccain. take a look at this approach. >> the response was slow. it was confused. it was inconsistent. they first said that it was a youtube video and a spontaneous mob. we now know that it was a planned terrorist att
bush and he had said that the middle east going up in flames was a, quote, bump in the road, george w. bush would have been absolutely skewered by the press. >> at the same time, is it fair to say that the romney campaign and mitt romney himself have seized upon things too quickly and almost looked a little almost like a dog pulling on someone's leg? >> they've been hand-fisted. >> let me ask you this. >> they made a mistake. in fact, even internally inside the romney...
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bush, hear a lot about florida, george w. bush wouldn't have been president without new hampshire, that's a state mitt romney owns a home, the president owning a large lead again. that's changed in the past month. registered voters said the direction of the country had improved but the place where that was most significant, new hampshire. in june there was a 20 point gap between wrong track, right track. that gap in this poll is just 7%. we're seeing that time and time again. now let's go to virginia. another important state. mitt romney loses ohio, mark, i am sure you agree with me, he has to win virginia. new suffolk university poll last night shows the race is much tighter than it has been. president obama only ahead of mitt romney by 2 percentage points. and fascinating there. how does all of this look, mark? >> look, it is right to not take any single poll, make a huge deal of it, but there are some state polls like that batch from nbc and the virginia poll, if you saw those in a vacuum, you'd say romney is in the game.
bush, hear a lot about florida, george w. bush wouldn't have been president without new hampshire, that's a state mitt romney owns a home, the president owning a large lead again. that's changed in the past month. registered voters said the direction of the country had improved but the place where that was most significant, new hampshire. in june there was a 20 point gap between wrong track, right track. that gap in this poll is just 7%. we're seeing that time and time again. now let's go to...
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george w. bush won the presidency twice. with the same so-called media liberal out there. why don't you focus on getting the guy elected and showing what his strong points are? if you do that maybe you'd have a chance but the problem is -- >> i agree. >> people don't know what mitt romney stand for. even republicans are concerned about this. >> i agree. >> the last word, thomas, we tend to have a conversation about how there are 41 days left. there aren't. parts of the country are already voting and as you pointed out next tuesday in ohio, so it's on right now. so, it's not as if the romney campaign in three weeks can do something. it's immediate. >> yeah. you're talking about that. we are living in it right now and talk about the 41 days to go. >> real quickly. >> go ahead. >> adding elizabeth dole come pain that 86% of the people in north carolina said they knew that about the opponent they would never vote for the opponent and ran the ad. extremely controversial. the problem is 67% of the people already voted. this can be lost very quickly in early voting. no doubt abou
george w. bush won the presidency twice. with the same so-called media liberal out there. why don't you focus on getting the guy elected and showing what his strong points are? if you do that maybe you'd have a chance but the problem is -- >> i agree. >> people don't know what mitt romney stand for. even republicans are concerned about this. >> i agree. >> the last word, thomas, we tend to have a conversation about how there are 41 days left. there aren't. parts of the...
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. >>> president george w. bush appointed john roberts to the high court when chief justice william rehnquist died. the senate confirmed roberts 78-22. justice john paul stevens administered the oath in the east room of the white house. tomorrow is the start of the new term of the supreme court and it's shaping up to be an important one for civil rights. toor more we turn to nbc news justice correspondent, pete williams. >> this supreme court term may be one of the most important in decades for civil rights. with the potential for blockbuster decisions on race and same-sex marriage. the court will examine the widespread practice of considering the race of students who apply for college. the case brought by a white high school senior, abigail fisher who said affirmative action kept her out of the university of texas. >> i always thought from the time i was a little girl that any kind of discrimination was wrong and for an institution of higher learning to act this way makes no sense to me. >> the university says
. >>> president george w. bush appointed john roberts to the high court when chief justice william rehnquist died. the senate confirmed roberts 78-22. justice john paul stevens administered the oath in the east room of the white house. tomorrow is the start of the new term of the supreme court and it's shaping up to be an important one for civil rights. toor more we turn to nbc news justice correspondent, pete williams. >> this supreme court term may be one of the most important...
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george w. bush high, president obama high but ten points lower. to me, it looks like a one way ratchet. things move in the way of destruction, not back. >> republicans are more motivated on this. >> that's the problem. >> the democrats are not motivated on this. obama deserves responsibility. 78 have been confirmed, but he hasn't filled all the seats. he has not nominated enough judges to fill the va can says there. the republicans say how can you blame us. >> this motivation is so key and important. we saw it when, remember when the democratic senate was filibustering judicial nominees by george w. bush, the republicans had a big event called justice sunday, they cast rallies across the country. it's when they threatened the nuclear option and brought cots in because their interest group cares about this issue more than, i think, with president -- you are doing god's work, ann, but i think more than the progressive base does. i want people watching this, just if you care about choice, i don't know if you do, but if you care about choice, the fift
george w. bush high, president obama high but ten points lower. to me, it looks like a one way ratchet. things move in the way of destruction, not back. >> republicans are more motivated on this. >> that's the problem. >> the democrats are not motivated on this. obama deserves responsibility. 78 have been confirmed, but he hasn't filled all the seats. he has not nominated enough judges to fill the va can says there. the republicans say how can you blame us. >> this...
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bush and john kerry fought it out every day about the war. in 2008 we were at war, and barack obama and john mccain fought it out every day in that war. this week when the financial crisis was absolutely on fire, at that debate, they were talking about the wars. this year, president obama does bring it up, he does bring it up at most of his stump speeches, how he explains what he has done and planning on doing talking about the two wars. he doesn't have to say much more because he's speaking to an empty room. the romney campaign has no identifiable position on afghanistan. they have been unwilling and unable to hold up that side of debate and so regardless of what it means for the candidates as a country we are deprived of a national discussion about a war we are in. 70,000 american families having skin in the game right now. we have -- that's part of the reason i'm looking forward to the debates. some ways sort of a post-policy campaign. and you can't do that in a debate, at least unless the debate is really bad. >> this is -- this is billed
bush and john kerry fought it out every day about the war. in 2008 we were at war, and barack obama and john mccain fought it out every day in that war. this week when the financial crisis was absolutely on fire, at that debate, they were talking about the wars. this year, president obama does bring it up, he does bring it up at most of his stump speeches, how he explains what he has done and planning on doing talking about the two wars. he doesn't have to say much more because he's speaking to...
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bush's time. and most people think back to the clinton era as being a better period of time as the bush era. so barack obama's winning that debate by proxy because he's associated himself with the policies of bill clinton and with the person of bill clinton. >> i think we've got to start thinking for real about the probability of a clinton monument on the mall. i mean, you know, who would have thunk it? >> didn't he just say that he could run in ireland, and he could also run in france. >> he could run in france because he was born in louisiana. >> that's a true statement. >> ireland's a better fit for him, though, i think. >> although they love him in france. he's a lover. >> we'll move past that. joe, you're just joining us. i want to play a clip for you that we played last hour. mitt romney talking to nbc news yesterday. and now bringing up the massachusetts health care law he championed and helped pass as support for his campaign. >> throughout this campaign as well, we've talked about my reco
bush's time. and most people think back to the clinton era as being a better period of time as the bush era. so barack obama's winning that debate by proxy because he's associated himself with the policies of bill clinton and with the person of bill clinton. >> i think we've got to start thinking for real about the probability of a clinton monument on the mall. i mean, you know, who would have thunk it? >> didn't he just say that he could run in ireland, and he could also run in...
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boom and george w. bush cut taxes and there were predictions of prosperity and instead we had the slowest decade since world war ii and then the crisis. none of this is to say that tax cuts cause economic problems or tax increases lead to prosperity. i don't know anyone who seriously makes that argument. the question is, how important are tax cuts to economic growth? and i don't know how you look at recent history and say that relatively modest changes in the top marginal tax rate is the main force driving the american economy. >> yet, it is the sort of magical ball, the ball, once you slash taxes for top income earners everything is going to magically right itself. i think it's -- josh, i thought it was an interesting -- that sound we played from romney, kind of backing away from his announcement that everybody's tax rates are going to go down. it is, i think, an acknowledgement the tax plan that he put out is math mat kaly impossible. to balance the budget and cut rates you have to close loopholes on
boom and george w. bush cut taxes and there were predictions of prosperity and instead we had the slowest decade since world war ii and then the crisis. none of this is to say that tax cuts cause economic problems or tax increases lead to prosperity. i don't know anyone who seriously makes that argument. the question is, how important are tax cuts to economic growth? and i don't know how you look at recent history and say that relatively modest changes in the top marginal tax rate is the main...
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eugene, perhaps romney should try disappearing for a while, then he might become as popular as george w. bush because shock, horror, as it stands now, the former president is actually more popular than mitt romney, though they're both, as they say, underwater. what do you think? >> well, perhaps that could work but it's an inconvenient time for romney to disappear given that there's this election in a few weeks. however, he does keep disappearing. he keeps leaving the campaign trail to do these fund-raisers. one asks again what are they thinking in boston, what are they doing in boston, why are they running the campaign this way? and in the end the campaign comes down to the candidate. i mean, you can't blame it on the consultants. you can't blame it on the people around him. tough hold the candidate accountable for the way the campaign is being run. >> to be fair, eugene, you have been holding him accountable throughout all of your columns. >> i was just going to say mitt romney at this point might as well go down to the cayman islands where former president shall is appearing at an
eugene, perhaps romney should try disappearing for a while, then he might become as popular as george w. bush because shock, horror, as it stands now, the former president is actually more popular than mitt romney, though they're both, as they say, underwater. what do you think? >> well, perhaps that could work but it's an inconvenient time for romney to disappear given that there's this election in a few weeks. however, he does keep disappearing. he keeps leaving the campaign trail to do...
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bush. take a listen to this interview he gave to nbc's ron allen yesterday. >> throughout this campaign, as well, we've talked about my record in massachusetts. don't forget, i got everybody in my state insured. 100% of the kids in our state have health insurance. i don't think there's anything that shows more i'm pat think and care about the people of this country than that kind of record. >> as chuck todd point i'd out this morning the question really wasn't specifically about health care, it was about compassion and empathy and he interjected his record for massachusetts and health care and what they were able to accomplish there. can mitt romney turn his health care plan into an advantage now especially since they've been trying to distance themselves from that all along? >> well, i think there's some irony in the fact that mitt romney briefly mentions his role in passing health care reform in massachusetts when the first thing he pledged to do if he were to become president of the unit
bush. take a listen to this interview he gave to nbc's ron allen yesterday. >> throughout this campaign, as well, we've talked about my record in massachusetts. don't forget, i got everybody in my state insured. 100% of the kids in our state have health insurance. i don't think there's anything that shows more i'm pat think and care about the people of this country than that kind of record. >> as chuck todd point i'd out this morning the question really wasn't specifically about...